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lt 2003You are referring God and His Laws in the OT versus The Son of God and His
Teachings in the NT?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Weaver"
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I am Not A Christian-was This isn't the real America,
by JC
> Well, the God of the Old Testament and the God of the new are somewhat
> different.
>
> The God of Abraham and Isaac seems a little grumpier than the one I was
> raised with.
>
> robert luis rabello wrote:
>
>>Appal Energy wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Oh, I don't know about that Robert.
>>>
>>>So, we have the "tough love" Jesus who would assassinate national
>>>leaders, torture unknown "enemies" and drop bombs on entire civilian
>>>populations in order to bring them closer to .... no, not god...,
>>>westernized democracy.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> That alone should be enough to convince you and anyone who is serious
>>that people who advocate such actions are NOT Christians. It's
>>similar to being pregnant, in that Christianity is an "either / or"
>>proposition. Follow Christ, or follow the world. You can tell who
>>these people are following by their deeds and attitudes.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Then we have the historical Jesus who would let each individual's heart
>>>convict him or herself.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>As both are worlds apart, they either must be two separate deities or
>>>Jesus was a schizophrenic who managed to pull the wool over everyone's
>>>eyes for the past two millenia
>>>
>>>But that latter possibility can't really be considered in all honesty,
>>>now can it? (?ti nac rO)
>>>
>>>Support of the former premise comes from the Jerry Falwells, Pat
>>>Robertsons, James Dobsons and George Bushs of the world who were
>>>obviously granted their authority by God. But when the dots are
>>>connected amongst these gurus, it becomes pretty obvious that their god
>>>or their Jesus isn't the one out of the New King James version.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Here's a possibility that you haven't considered: The leaders you've
>>outlined above are controlled by satanic forces using the cloak of
>>religion to deceive their followers. This kind of thing has been
>>going on as long as religion has existed! Jesus himself had pretty
>>harsh words for hypocrites like them.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Given the common belief that God makes no mistakes and inevitably cannot
>>>be wrong, then their god surely must exist because he or she put them in
>>>these positions of power - surely to do his or her work. And given that
>>>everyone already knows that a god of compassion has been in existence
>>>since time began, the logical conclusion is that there must be two gods
>>>- their god and everyone else's.
>>>
>>>So let's be honest Robert. Since we all know that God is "in control,"
>>>then let's stop trying to find excuses and assessing blame against what
>>>some would like to call conniving, manipulative, deceiving humans under
>>>the spell of evil powers for what is obviously the work of at least one
>>>of two gods.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I think we are agreeing on the same thing from two differing
>>perspectives, Todd. (This is often the case between you and I.) I
>>don't excuse the nefarious behavior of pseudo-Christians--people who
>>claim God's name yet deny his transforming power--it disgusts me as
>>much as it does you.
>>
>>robert luis rabello
>>"The Edge of Justice"
>>Adventure for Your Mind
>>http://www.newadventure.ca
>>
>>Ranger Supercharger Project Page
>>http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/
>>
>>
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