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Date: 1969-12-31
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Yes, they claim it, they also claim it reduces emissions and improves engine
efficiency, reducing fuel consumption while producing more power.

TINSTAAFL.


7500 miles that is 1 gal of water for 125 hrs at 60 miles an hour.

Over 3 weeks  40 hr weeks.

If their device is that good, then they have no need to use diesel in the
first place.    Even if a big rig is getting 20 mpg, that's 375 gal of fuel.

So now we are supposed to believe that some device will improve efficiency
when water is broken down to O2 and H2 applied to fuel at a rate of 1/375?

Even if the water is free, you are saving about $.01 a gal.

If the device only cost $4000, your going to have to burn 400000 gal of fuel
to break even.

Used only distilled water and works down to -40* C below?    Must be some
strange kind of new type of distilled water that that doesn't start to
freeze at 0* C.

Distilled water is a poorer conductor than water with some types of
impurities in it.

Someone is blowing smoke, but, I doubt it is the diesel trucks.

Greg H.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darryl McMahon" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 18:03
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power


> The company (CHEC) claims they use about 4 litres (just over a U.S.
> gallon) of water in 12,000 km (7,500 miles).  In a tractor trailer, that
> seems trivial to me.
>
> Darryl McMahon
>
> Greg and April wrote:
> > The water may be more plentiful, but, it still takes up volume and mass.
> >
> > 1 gal of water weighs about 8.35 lbs. and takes up 231 cubic inches
> >
> > So 90 gal weighs over 750 lbs and takes up over 12 cubic ft.
> >
> > That's a lot, of extra weight and volume being taken up.
> >
> > I can't help but wonder if the water is being doped with alcohol - it
would
> > increase the amount of H2 per unit of liquid, and IIRC, increases
> > conductivity of the water, not to mention decreasing the temperature of
> > freezing solid.
> >
> >
> > Can anyone confirm the effects of electricity through alcohol?
> >
> > Greg H.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Zeke Yewdall" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 16:31
> > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hmmmm.  Well, considering that they go through 100 gallons of diesel
> >>fuel in an 8 hour day, and water (even clean water) is way more
> >>plentiful than diesel), that actually doesn't seem that bad if it
> >>allows saving maybe 5% of the diesel fuel.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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