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Howdy yourself Bob
My SPECULATION:
"My conclusion: Acetone is a very inexpensive fuel system cleaner.
It will only improve mileage *_if _*it can clean the fuel system"
Bob, maybe it is nothing more than CLEAN injectors or something small like that.
I feel that IF the acetone did anything more than CLEAN SOMETHING the results would have REVERSED when Acetone was not used. THEY DID NOT.
I sure agree that a scientific study would be much more accurate but that's not what I can do.
Bob, I have a fell grasp on how difficult it is to TEST with anything other than a TEST HIWAY with the proper equipment and I'll bet that most people here do also. That's not what we as ordinary people posses. We do accept anecdotal experiences and go with that info and do our own tests just as I have done here.
It's not the best but that's all most of us have.
If you feel that this is less than what you want to find here then maybe YOU can offer more. We all (I expect) would be very open to that.
Let me make one more statement. Let me quote you first.
"My bottom line- acetone in small amounts does nothing, and any
observation of a positive effect can be attributed to uncontrolled
variables."
IF what I did was "a positive effect (that) can be attributed to uncontrolled
variables." why did the results not reverse when I went back to NO ACETONE???
Bob I'm not one to make statements too soon, I hope. Here's an example of why I say my mileage did increase.
My wife and I make a particular trip on the same road about the same time of day about once a month.It's about 140 miles round trip. I have been using a mileage displaying device that displays what the car computer knows (if you will) from prior to Acetone to the present. My mileage INCREASED 3 mpg in my wife's car, which is the only one we use for this trip. My car did about the same thing but the test was not as scientific
There you have it.
Now it's YOUR TURN to not to be offended. I would feel bad if you were as we are just putting things on the table here for people to do with as they will.
Your thoughts please.
My BEST to You
Roy Washbish
bob allen wrote:
Howdy Roy, would you care to speculate on why you have better mileage
with a cleaner fuel system? And just how much did your mileage improve?
I am not trying to be mean-spirited here, just questioning.
If in fact the mileage improves, then why was it lower before addition
of acetone? Were the hydrocarbons passing thru system uncombusted? I
wonder if in states where volatile organic carbon is tested for in
exhaust emissions, that the voc's would go down in an engine using a
trace of acetone blended with the fuel? I really think this could be
simply tested with an exhaust gas analyzer or a dynamometer without the
difficulty of controlling all the "highway" variables.
I have my own ideas on this, and nothing personal to you or anyone else
that has posted on the subject, but I don't think most folks understand
how difficult it is to control the variables involved in this type of
experiment. Just a few degrees difference in air temperatures affect
tire pressure which can have an effect on mileage, as just one example.
My bottom line- acetone in small amounts does nothing, and any
observation of a positive effect can be attributed to uncontrolled
variables.
ROY Washbish wrote:
> Please allow me to butt in here.
> I used 2 1/2 oz Acetone per 10 gal of gas in both my cars for two tank
> fulls. What I found, as I see it, was that the system got clean and my
> mileage improved. After I went back to just gas, same station, same
> pump, the improvement was still there.
> My conclusion: Acetone is a very inexpensive fuel system cleaner.
> It will only improve mileage *_if _*it can clean the fuel system.
> So, there you have my two cents.
> Roy Washbish
>
>
>
> */Randall /* wrote:
>
> I tried several tanks in a 1997 Ford Crown Victoria P71 (retired police
> cruiser) running about 2oz per 10 gallons. I know it wasn't very
> scientific
> (strict controls on amounts, driving conditions, etc) and I found
> almost no
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Howdy yourself Bob My SPECULATION: "My conclusion: Acetone is a very inexpensive fuel system cleaner.
It will only improve mileage *_if _*it can clean the fuel system" Bob, maybe it is nothing more than CLEAN injectors or something small like that. I feel that IF the acetone did anything more than CLEAN SOMETHING the results would have REVERSED when Acetone was not used. THEY DID NOT. I sure agree that a scientific study would be much more accurate but that's not what I can do. Bob, I have a fell grasp on how difficult it is to TEST with anything other than a TEST HIWAY with the proper equipment and I'll bet that most people here do also. That's not what we as ordinary people posses. We do accept anecdotal experiences and go with that info and do our own tests just as I have done here. It's not the best but that's
all most of us have. If you feel that this is less than what you want to find here then maybe YOU can offer more. We all (I expect) would be very open to that. Let me make one more statement. Let me quote you first. "My bottom line- acetone in small amounts does nothing, and any
observation of a positive effect can be attributed to uncontrolled
variables." IF what I did was "a positive effect (that) can be attributed to uncontrolled
variables." why did the results not reverse when I went back to NO ACETONE??? Bob I'm not one to make statements too soon, I hope. Here's an example of why I say my mileage did increase. My wife and I make a particular trip on the same road about the same time of day about once a month.It's about 140 miles round trip. I have been using a mileage displaying device that displays what the car computer knows (if you will) from prior to Acetone to the
present. My mileage INCREASED 3 mpg in my wife's car, which is the only one we use for this trip. My car did about the same thing but the test was not as scientific There you have it. Now it's YOUR TURN to not to be offended. I would feel bad if you were as we are just putting things on the table here for people to do with as they will. Your thoughts please. My BEST to You Roy Washbish
bob allen <bob.org> wrote: Howdy Roy, would you care to speculate on why you have better mileage
with a cleaner fuel system? And just how much did your mileage improve?
I am not trying to be mean-spirited here, just questioning.
If in fact the mileage
improves, then why was it lower before addition
of acetone? Were the hydrocarbons passing thru system uncombusted? I
wonder if in states where volatile organic carbon is tested for in
exhaust emissions, that the voc's would go down in an engine using a
trace of acetone blended with the fuel? I really think this could be
simply tested with an exhaust gas analyzer or a dynamometer without the
difficulty of controlling all the "highway" variables.
I have my own ideas on this, and nothing personal to you or anyone else
that has posted on the subject, but I don't think most folks understand
how difficult it is to control the variables involved in this type of
experiment. Just a few degrees difference in air temperatures affect
tire pressure which can have an effect on mileage, as just one example.
My bottom line- acetone in small amounts does nothing, and any
observation of a positive effect can be attributed to
uncontrolled
variables.
ROY Washbish wrote:
> Please allow me to butt in here.
> I used 2 1/2 oz Acetone per 10 gal of gas in both my cars for two tank
> fulls. What I found, as I see it, was that the system got clean and my
> mileage improved. After I went back to just gas, same station, same
> pump, the improvement was still there.
> My conclusion: Acetone is a very inexpensive fuel system cleaner.
> It will only improve mileage *_if _*it can clean the fuel system.
> So, there you have my two cents.
> Roy Washbish
>
>
>
> */Randall /* wrote:
>
> I tried several tanks in a 1997 Ford Crown Victoria P71 (retired police
> cruiser) running about 2oz per 10 gallons. I know it wasn't very
> scientific
> (strict controls on amounts, driving conditions, etc) and I found
> almost no
(SNIP)
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